Marriage

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marriage is a cermoney invented by baskin robins to sell ice cream cakes during the winter.

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I'll agree that it's less essential in this part of the world, but here's the thing in one sense it's almost better not to get married at all and live your life entirely independently than to invest in marriage and then get divorced, because it really is an institution of trust where you depend on each other for things. My parents split up after 25 years of marriage, and both sides feel like they got a raw deal out of that, and it means neither of them are going to be able to retire when they planned to.

I also think that it's more necessary than perhaps most people our ages contemplate, because the necessity becomes much more apparent at middle age in our cultures than in less wealthy cultures, because it's not as necessary for bare subsistence. Incidentally, childbirth changes the equation dramatically, because it is ridiculously difficult to manage raising a child as a single parent while still meeting basic material needs and preparing for old age.

And yes I completely agree both with the notion that the Old Testament law makes absolutely zero none nada sense to do that now but that it actually could make sense within the context of that time period, though obviously modern sensibilities make it hard to fathom.

I think a big reason for the lowering stability of the institution of marriage is that it's no longer necessary in many ways. In the past, for most women the options in life consisted of "get married and stay with your man" or "starve to death or become an old maid". Now that women can support themselves in modern society they don't NEED to get married anymore. There also used to be a lot of religious and social pressures forcing people to get married and stay faithful, even if they didn't like who they ended up with. The idea of marrying somebody who raped you today seems crazy, but back in old testament days it was unthinkable not to.

What I'm getting at here is that the institution of marriage is not outdated, but there is simply no longer any motivation for people to enter it permanently. The only current motivation to get married is fear of loneliness or the desire to have a kid, and that's not enough to keep folks together. For that reason I feel that marriage is unfixable and doomed, much to the disadvantage of children everywhere (and by extension society at large).

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marriage is a cermoney invented by baskin robins to sell ice cream cakes during the winter.

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I think a big reason for the lowering stability of the institution of marriage is that it's no longer necessary in many ways. In the past, for most women the options in life consisted of "get married and stay with your man" or "starve to death or become an old maid". Now that women can support themselves in modern society they don't NEED to get married anymore. There also used to be a lot of religious and social pressures forcing people to get married and stay faithful, even if they didn't like who they ended up with. The idea of marrying somebody who raped you today seems crazy, but back in old testament days it was unthinkable not to.

What I'm getting at here is that the institution of marriage is not outdated, but there is simply no longer any motivation for people to enter it permanently. The only current motivation to get married is fear of loneliness or the desire to have a kid, and that's not enough to keep folks together. For that reason I feel that marriage is unfixable and doomed, much to the disadvantage of children everywhere (and by extension society at large).

I do think though that if society at large shifted towards more unmarried families then it wouldn't be so negative for the kids in those families as it is today. A lot of hippy-dippy types like putting their kids through societal experiments which make sense on paper but end up fucking the kid up, like raising them gender-neutral or giving them weird names. But I think the problems with these things come from being an outcast in society. If you weren't ostracized for having an unmarried family (or even aware that it's different from the norm) you wouldn't necessarily have a rough time with it.

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who the fuck likes baskin robins anyways.

Pro tip: Never ever buy their peanut butter ice cream.

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i think like, marriage is whatever, but its pretty broken as it is right now. but then if they changed it would it still be marriage? idk its your fucking opinion jerkoffs

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this is a great post

Thank you.

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Thank you.

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